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Club Piaggio • Ver tema - Cuidado con los aceites y los talleres!!!! importante
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Cuidado con los aceites y los talleres!!!! importante

NotaPublicado: 10 01 , 2005 11:35 am
por Xavi

NotaPublicado: 11 01 , 2005 1:01 pm
por peps

NotaPublicado: 11 01 , 2005 4:24 pm
por Janu

Re: Cuidado con los aceites y los talleres!!!! importante

NotaPublicado: 26 11 , 2008 11:03 am
por ABUELO175

NotaPublicado: 26 11 , 2008 3:36 pm
por Chichas

NotaPublicado: 27 11 , 2008 9:41 am
por jessee

NotaPublicado: 28 11 , 2008 10:11 am
por KingGeorge
Hola Xavi, permíteme que te de mi opinión. Copio un post que puse en el foro de Silverwing hablando del mismo tema. Espero que te ayude. El problema no es el grado de viscosidad del aceite quen te han puesto, sino la calidad del mismo. No estoy de acuerdo con la contestación desde Piaggio, seguro que el que te la ha dado no es técnico, aunque me preocupa que desde la "marca" te hayan dado una contestación así. Un fabricante jamás te obliga a una graduación SAE, porque ésta se debe elegir según la temperatura ambiente a la que va a trabajar el motor. únicamente tienen que darte la calidad mínima exigible.

Copio:

"Vamos a ver, para empezar debo de decir que el aceite que se debe usar tiene que cumplir las normas de calidad que la marce exige, en este caso Honda, que para la SW es igual o superior a API SE, SF o SG. Que no tiene absolutamente nada que ver con el grado de viscosidad del aceite. Este es un error común de los usuarios, sólo nos fijamos en si es un 5W40, si es un 10W40, etc, y es un lamentable error.

Adjunto este enlace donde explica las diferentes clasificaciones API:
http://www.suamen.com/normativas/normativas/page25.html

Como nuestros motores son de embrague en seco, es decir, no está bañado por el aceite del motor, como ocurre en otras motos, sobre todo en las de marchas, nos vale cualquier aceite "de coche". Para las otras motos, suele exigir la calidad JASO. Si pincháis en la columna de la izquierda del enlace anterior en "internacional" veréis la norma JASO.

Actualmente para Europa se utiliza la norma ACEA (Asociación Europea de Constructores de Automóviles) ver enlace:
http://www.suamen.com/normativas/normativas/page24.html
donde explica la clasificación.

Para el grado de viscosidad se utiliza la norma SAE
http://www.suamen.com/normativas/normativas/page26.html
que tiene en cuenta la temperatura embiente a la que va a funcionar el motor. Cuando un aceite es multigrado 10W40, significa que en invierno se comporta como un 10W (W de Winter, invierno) SAE 10 y en verano se comporta como un SAE 40. Por eso, la viscosidad debe de elegirse según las temperaturas que se alcancen en cada localidad, zona, o región. Por lo general para zonas frías con un 10W swería más que suficiente, ya que contempla temperaturas de hasta -25ºC. Y para verano, un 40 ó 50 sería perfectamente válido, los dos admiten temperaturas ambiente por encima de los 40ºC.
Resumiendo, para zonas fróas con un 10W40 sería más que suficiente y para zonas cálidas bastaría con un 15W40 y/o 20W50."

Espero que te sirva.

Saludos

NotaPublicado: 28 11 , 2008 5:54 pm
por quirino

NotaPublicado: 30 11 , 2008 1:39 am
por ventu

NotaPublicado: 03 12 , 2008 7:15 pm
por flozman

NotaPublicado: 03 12 , 2008 7:55 pm
por quirino

NotaPublicado: 03 12 , 2008 11:31 pm
por Chichas

NotaPublicado: 04 12 , 2008 6:06 pm
por flozman

NotaPublicado: 04 12 , 2008 7:31 pm
por mac

NotaPublicado: 04 12 , 2008 11:35 pm
por Chichas